we checked in with current san francisco mayor ed lee and former mayor womeny brown. our question on the fiscal cliff, how much of this is the politics and how much of it is show for the public and real deal cutting? >> first of all, none of it is show. it is really politicians trying their best to prevail of what they promised their voters they would do. that is what it is. they are not postponing on purpose. they are going as long as they can. willy brown said, and i agreed, my voters would have to say i didn't make the fight, what i promised to do. >> reporter: what you promised do isn't after you it is down and see the facts isn't exactly the right way to go. what do you do politically then? >> for me i naturally try to get that information out there and let the public and certainly everybody looking at the budget process understand what changed circumstances we face. for me budget has been a process where you don't really hide things. you really have to tell everybody what is going on. >> the question is the republicans say okay, we can't give on taxes until you